Aug 21, 2008

Man of the people McCain forgets what home he lives in


It never fails to amuse and amaze me when Republicans try to portray Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama as an elitist and arrogant.

It’s amazing to me how a man with a funny name, according to him, was able to accomplish so much. That is in sharp contract to his opponents in the race who have used their family names to great advantage. The name of Bush/McCain opened a lot of doors shut to many of us, and we had to open it with our own hard work.

Obama spent some of his childhood raised in a single family home after his parents divorced at age 2, and a large chunk of it raised by middle class grandparents. He attended college and law school on scholarships and student loans like most people. Then, when he had a change to use that Ivy League degree to make money in the corporate world, but he choose instead to work as a community organizer for three years for a church-based community organization in Chicago’s poorest neighborhoods.

What an elitist.

In an interview Wednesday, Republican presidential nominee John McCain, a real man of the people, could not tell a reporter how many homes he owns. When asked, he had to have his staff get back to the press later that day.

The answer, according to that crack staff, is at least four, located in Arizona, California and Virginia. However, Newsweek estimated this summer that the couple owns at least seven properties.

A true man of the people.

61 comments:

ka_Dargo said...

And Obama's the elitist.

Imagine that.

I believe the number is 8, regarding McCain's houses. Oops, I meant to say, what McCain's sugar-momma own.

Communications guru said...

That could be the number. It makes we wonder why faux news has never referred to Cindy McCain as McCain’s baby momma. Especially if he such a man of the people, everyday Joe and one of the boys.

Brett said...

Oh no!! John McCain owns property and houses!! This ia terrible revelation. How scandalous!!!

Let's see, he has one in Arizona. Ok, that makes sense. He lives there. He has one in Virginia. That too makes sense. He's a United States Senator.

Another one in California. Vacation property or income property? And a forth where the location isn't mentioned. A second home in Arizona? Another income property?

His wife inherited alot of money from her father. I'm sure that some of that was in the form of houses and other property. McCain was also divorced, in Virginia I believe. Did he end up with houses or property from that?

Were the houses left by his father in law where McCain really had no say other than to put the houses in both his and his wife's name? Did they buy the property together and use it as vacation homes? Or rental property?

This seems to be alot about nothing same as it was when someone said that Kerry and his wife owned four houses.

I have no animosity towards people for being successful. It is not a crime to be successful in this country. In fact, we have the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. If buying homes makes someone happy or helps to provide for retirement, education for children, or just added income to give their children a better life when mom and dad are gone, I'm thrilled for a persons success.

Now, if he had gotten those properties because of a sweetheart land deal due to his position in government, as Harry Reid did, or because someone thought he was going places as with Obama and Rezko, or from illegal activity, then I'd be more concerned about this.

McCain to me, is a liberal. He's not my choice for the Republican nominee and I'd still love to see a conservative wrest it away from him at the convention. However, I am impressed with he and his wife for what they have done in their lives. Adopting a child that his wife fell in love with from another country. The sacrifices that McCain made for country while in the service of the country.

If you want to plant both of your feet on McCain for his position on amnesty for illegal aliens, I'm with you. If you want to beat him down for McCain/Feingold, I'm in line with you. McCain/Kennedy. Another piece of crap. McCain/Lieberman. Still more cow pies.

But to go after a guy for being successful? That's just more of the liberals being envious of another man's abilities to succeed. It's very unbecoming.

This is just another example of liberals hating people that have more than they do. What they don't understand is that people can do better for themselves than the government can do for them.

Brett
conservativelifestyle.blogspot.com

ka_Dargo said...

Isn't that what you and your ilk have done, Brett? Gone after Obama because he's successful...at least that's been one of the main digs thrown at him.

Brett said...

Nope. Obama has not had a contested election. He doesn't have any experience. There are questions about his upbringing and whether he's Muslim or not, and now there seems to be questions about his name even. There are documents that show he has citizenship in India with another name (his step dad's). I don't know if they are true or not yet, but they are questions that should be answered.

I don't like him because he's going to tax us to death. I don't like him because he's liberal. I don't like him because he wants free health care supplied by the government which is not free health care, just increased taxes for a system that is failing in Europe and Canada.

I don't want him because he doesn't give specifics about his desires and plans and you have to review his history of statements to find out what he believes. He doesn't state them straight out or at least he hasn't in the campaign.

He whines about negative advertising rather than dealing with it all while doing his own negative advertising. There cannot be negative advertising if there is nothing negative to go after.

His religion is in question, not just his Muslim connection and education connection, but also his affiliation with the racist Jeremiah Wright and Fleglar. His connections with Louis Farrakhan and his association with the domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and his wife.

Then there is the statement that his wife made about not having been proud of her country until now. Don't even try to tell me that this isn't a problem because when that came out, she went into seclusion with people to give her a make over. If there is no problem, why the makeover?

In addition, Obama changes with the polls and lives by the polls. He's willing to say what he wants to get elected whether he believes it or not.

His stance on Iraq is 100% wrong. He's willing to lose in Iraq and I don't care who you are, once in a war, you win it. Right or wrong. YOU WIN IT.

He pays lip service to the military when the cameras are on, but he doesn't believe what he just said once the cameras go off.

You like him? Vote for him. You like him because he can read well? Vote for him. You like him because he's black? Vote for him. I cannot see voting for a man because of the color of his skin and I can't see not voting for him because of the color of his skin.

I can only see voting for the candidate based on their plans for this country. He's pulling a clinton talking about the bad economy. Yet the economy has been the greatest economy since Reagan was President. The numbers are there to back this up. All you need to do is to have the courage to look them up. While you're doing that, look at the spending. It has not decreased. It's always increased.

I'm not thrilled with liars and I consider Barack Hussein Obama a liar. He's not in a league of liars as the Clintons were and are, but he's working his way up there.

Even your own news people are saying that he needs to choose Biden because he has experience that Obama doesn't have. When liberal media is telling us that he needs to choose someone to take up his shortcomings, you know the guy isn't experienced. Unfortunately, those that are partisan won't see that. They'll still claim he's experienced. Yet when McCain chooses Romney, they'll say he had to choose him because McCain is no good on the economy, by his own admission. That is a double standard.

We are faced with two substandard candidates for President this year. Like it or not, they are not the best candidates that either party could have put out there.

If Obama is elected, I expect a terrorist attack within a year of his inauguration. It's only natural for the terrorists to test an unknown quantity which Obama is. I suspect that if and when that happens, Obama will not be forceful. He will not make the terrorist sponsors pay. He'll instead try to talk them to death and as Jimmy Carter proved, it cannot be done. As Bill Clinton proved, it cannot be done.

You're going to choose whomever you choose for whatever reasons you choose. That's your problem. My problem is that the guy that I have to choose is not one that I would choose to put on the ticket. But I'm still voting for him because he will keep the borders safe, he won't raise taxes as high as Obama would, and the liklihood of my children being hurt in a terrorist attack under McCain is a lot lower than it would be under Obama.

I have never heard anyone claim that Obama isn't fit because he's successful. He's a minor Senator that has no experience and bad ideas that have to be dug out because he doesn't put his plans out there.

Here's an interesting thing. In the late 90's, Bill, Hillary Clinton and Al Gore talked about how Social Security had to be saved. In 2002, liberals claimed that Social Security was successful and didn't need to be fixed or any new ideas. Now it seems that liberals are again bringing up saving social security. It must be a party thing for lies to come from the left.

That should keep you busy.

Brett
conservativelifestyle.blogspot.com

ka_Dargo said...

Feel better, Brett? Got your talking points spewed out and ready to fill up on more? Attaboy!

Now that Brett's rant is over, back to why McCain is an elitist.

Brett said...

His/Her post:
ka_Dargo said...
Isn't that what you and your ilk have done, Brett? Gone after Obama because he's successful...at least that's been one of the main digs thrown at him.

10:38 AM

I answered.

His/her intelligent response:
ka_Dargo said...
Feel better, Brett? Got your talking points spewed out and ready to fill up on more? Attaboy!

Now that Brett's rant is over, back to why McCain is an elitist.

12:03 PM

Is it any wonder that people look at the liberals and ask where's the substance? Thank you for proving my point.

Brett
conservativelifestyle.blogspot.com

Communications guru said...

I think you’re missing the point. The rich guy who has banked on his name all of his life is trying the paint the guy who had to work for everything as an elitist. Plus, to me, at least, it just seems if that a person does not know how many homes he owns something is a little off.

Also, the staff says at lest four, but Newsweek says seven.

The answer to your divorce question is no. He signed that house off to the wife he dumped when he took up with his current wife.

You may be correct about Kerry. But the big difference to me is you painted him as an elitist. Is McSame not an elitist? Plus, Kerry knew how many homes he owned.

Again, the issue is, McSame is a hypocrite for trying to paint the guy who worked for what he owns as an elitist.

We have been over the alleged Obama land deal, and there is nothing to it.

McSame is not a liberal. I am a liberal, and a proud liberal. Why is it you’re impressed with what McSame and his wife accomplished in their lives, but not the Obama’s? The McSame’s already had a head start, a huge head start. Is this the same child your heroes Bush and Rove tried to paint as an illegitimate black child in the 2000 SC primary? I honor his service too, but why not John Kerry’s? As a 20-year Navy veteran, Kerry has a better military record than McSame, but people like you stood by while the right smeared him and every person in the military who ever won a medal.

I have no problem with McSame’s immigration policy. To me, it’s sad they want to make a criminal out of the poor immigrant, but not the person or company exploiting his labor. It’s funny, McCain/Feingold and McCain/Kennedy can no longer bear McSame’s name anymore because he has long flip-flopped on those positions. It’s also ironic that the sponsor of McCain/Feingold has lobbyists running his campaign, his negative, Rove-like campaign.

Again, you are missing the point. It is not about “going after a guy for being successful.” It’s about the hypocrisy. I’m also not sure what great success McSame achieved. What, marrying rich?

Communications guru said...

Keep busy, doing what? Refuting the lies that hit your email inbox? Fine; I can’t let a lie stand unchallenged. “Obama has not had a contested election?.” Are you serious? He won four terms to the state Senate, and lost an election to the U.S. House in the primary in 2000. As for the Senate, don’t you remember your Grand Oil Party shipping up your conservative hero Allan Keyes from Maryland to run against him?

I see, you’re going to bring up all of that refuted BS. Questions about his name, passport and “upbringing” have long been debunked. How sad this is how far you have to go into the gutter for this shit.

As for taxes, I refuted that yesterday when you tried to pass of that piece of shit email.

Health care is not failing in Canada and France. It’s failing in the U.S. where more than 47 million Americans are without health care, and the number is growing daily.

If you don’t know his polices and plans that’s your fault.

Answering McSame’s attacks and the lies is not negative advertising. He will not be swift-boated.

His religion is not in question, and you are really stretching for the alleged associations.

You are both taking Michele Obama’s quote out of contest and delibertly getting it wrong. You know what, I also have never been more proud of my country, especially after Thursday and Nov. 3.

Obama is “willing to say what he wants to get elected whether he believes it or not?” Oh please, you better take a look at McSame. Tell me what positions he has not flip-flopped on?

His stance on Iraq is 100 percent correct, so much so that’s the current policy. Plus, he knew enough that getting into this unnecessary invasion was wrong.

Lip service to the military? He supports them when they come home, not McSame.

I like him because he can n read well? Where did that come from? I’m not voting for him because of the color of his skin.

Talking about the bad economy? We are in a recession. You need to get away from that computer screen and take a look around.

Please tell me what Obama has lied about?

Who are “my news people?” The corporate media is conservative, and they are giving grampy a pass.

I agree there were substandard candidates this year, but they were all Republicans. I could not make up my mind between three Democrats this year.

I’m sure you would like a terrorist attack to bolster Grampy’s chances, but it will not happen. How could the world hate us anymore than they already do? By the way, Americans are being killed by terrorist attacks every single day.

You could not be more wrong about the likelihood of your “children being hurt in a terrorist attack under McCain.? Hell, he will have them in a war before that happens, but then again, only the poor and working class fight Bush/McSame’s wars.

Anonymous said...

Barack Obama said there are 57 states in the United States, what does that tell you?

Barack Obama has a million dollar house in which he had a convicted felon help him purchase.

Please tell me who is the honest one? His brother lives on a dollar a month and "O" would not give him a dime.

Nice Guy

Anonymous said...

Barack Obama said there are 57 states in the United States, what does that tell you?

Barack Obama has a million dollar house in which he had a convicted felon help him purchase.

Please tell me who is the honest one? His brother lives on a dollar a month and "O" would not give him a dime.

Nice Guy

ka_Dargo said...

Oh look...another mouth breather.

Communications guru said...

That tells me, Mr. Nice guy, that he is human and makes mistake. He inspires me, but I know he is human. What do you think he is, the Messiah or something?

No one helped him purchase his house. That lie was debunked long ago. Here’s your proof.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_obama_have_a_real_estate_problem.html

His half-brother, who he has only met twice briefly, apparently did not want to be found. Who said he has even asked for help or that Barack will not provide it? Obama is the honest one.

ka_Dargo said...

According to McCain's 2007 Financial Disclosure report, he owns a parking lot worth 4 times the average American's home.

But Obama is an elitist.
*head/desk*

ka_Dargo said...

They also seem obsessed over Obama's half brother, yet make no mention of Cindy McCain's 2 half-sisters.
Just so you know, Cindy refers to herself as an only child

Communications guru said...

Wow. I had no idea. I found this link. I’m not sure what it means, or if it matters, but they certainly can’t hold it against Obama if you don’t do the same for McSame. At least Obama never lied, never said he was an only child or denied he had half siblings.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/20/AR2008082000253_pf.html

Anonymous said...

We're delighted to have a real estate debate with Barack Obama," said spokesman Brian Rogers, adding that the press should focus on Obama's house. "It's a frickin' mansion. He doesn't tell people that. You have a mansion you bought in a shady deal with a convicted felon."

The felon reference was to Tony Rezko, a former Obama friend and financial backer who was convicted on fraud and bribery charges this year

ka_Dargo said...

The Mouth Breather Cometh

Communications guru said...

I’m also happy to have a real estate debate, too. Obama’s house is a mansion, but see, he and his wife earned the money to buy it, they didn‘t marry into it or inherited it. The reference to a “convicted felon” has been debunked. I provided a link once before I’ll provide it again:
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_obama_have_a_real_estate_problem.html

How frickin' out of touch do you have to be to not know how many million dollar mansions you own? How frickin' out of touch do you have to be to think you only have four million dollar mansions when you really have seven?

ka_Dargo said...

Let's see, they started with the Rezko attacks...(looks like nony-mouse is on the 101st Fighting Keyboarders mailing list).

Next up...William Ayers, followed by Jeremiah Wright.

Spare me the tedium. You folks are boring, not to mention obvious.

ka_Dargo said...

Check this out.

It appears McCain has no ideas except Obama.

ka_Dargo said...

Here's a pic comparing the two blogs.

ka_Dargo said...

ROFLMAO!

More evidence of the impotent little trolls douchebaggery.

liberalshateusa said...

You fail to mention McCain's wife has all the money, just as I SERVED IN VIETMAN John Kerry's wife had all the money. The answer to the home's owned was not to say 4 and then find out it was 8. He did not want to give out a false statement. Big Friggen deal.

Omama house is a 96- year-old South Side home with four fireplaces, glassdoor bookcases fashioned from Honduran mahogany and a wine cellar.

The house and the adjoining yard had been owned as a single property, but the owners were listing them separately and asking $1.95 million for the house and $625,000 for the landscaped side lot.

That is a lot of house no matter how you look at it, for a Junior Senator.

Brett said...

You claim things have been debunked because you say they have? That's hilarious.

As for Kerry's war record. That's a joke to say the least. Three purple hearts which amounted to nothing more than a bruise. The swiftboaters were never proven wrong. But again, they are debunked because you refuse to believe them.

You have an overinflated opinion of yourself.

Once again, I don't have heroes that are politicians. You heap messianic praise on politicians. It really boils down to which is the less corrupt.

With a list that includes Bill Ayers, Farakhan, Racist Wright/Fleglar, and Rezko, Barack Hussein Obama has a long way to go to clean up his act.

With each of the above the line that Obama has come up with that will be remembered as his staple line is "he is not the man that I knew."

There is no substitute for experience. Obama doesn't have it.

Brett
conservativelifestyle.blogspot.com

Communications guru said...

First, Kerry also had money. Second, you cannot honestly say I SERVED IN VIETMAN John McCain does not have access to his wife's money. Wow, talk about spin. The man had no idea how many homes he owned, and then neither dies his staff. It is a "big frickin' deal."

The Obamas earned the money for their single home. He is not only a "junior Senator," he's the author of two best-selling books that earned him quite a lot of money. Also, his wife is/was associate Vice President at the University of Chicago.

How frickin' out of touch do you have to be to not know how many million dollar mansions you own? How frickin' out of touch do you have to be to think you only have four million dollar mansions when you really have seven?

Again, how can Grampy McSame paint Obama as an elitist and not know how many homes he owns? Who is the elitist again?

Communications guru said...

I'm not sure what things I have debunked, but everything I have claimed to have debunked in regard to Obama's home has been debunked, and I provided a link to the independent group that did so.

John Kerry is a decorated war hero. It's sad you are so anti-military and insist on smearing the troops. The smear boat vets were proven wrong. You're letting your irrational hatred of Democrats blind you to facts. Lt. Kerry earned three Purple Heats and the Navy Cross.

This ridiculous attempt to smear Obama because he knew certain people is not working, nor will it. It says a lot about your hero that a dishonest, crooked hypocrite like Ralph Reed is raising money for him. You have to wonder who he is shaking down for the cash and how much is going into his deep pockets.

Obama has as much or more experience as some of our greatest presidents. There is no substitute for judgment; Grampy McSame does not have it.

Brett said...

Interesting. The news is out. It's almost exactly as I said in a previous post. Newsweek was wrong. It's not seven. YOu're wrong. It's not seven. Obama even stated yesterday in Chester, VA that iwas seven. Apparently, he doesn't know what he's talking about either. Not a good sign for your proclaimed "messiah".

It's eight. As I said, nearly all are in Cindy McCain's name or in the name of various corporations she owns. His Virginia home is for him to live in while in Washington.

A couple of the condo's are for their children. In other words, nearly word for word what I said earlier.

Gee, the tone of your last couple of posts seem to indicate some frustration on your part. It seems that anonymous is getting to you.

By the way, you mentioned in one of your posts that there were 47 million uninsured Americans. You're wrong. Of the 47 million, there are an estimated 20 million illegal aliens. There are approximately 7 million that choose not to purchase health care because they have the wherewithall to pay for their own health care as needed.

Illegal immigration is just that. People here ILLEGALLY. They are not Americans. They are foriegn invaders.

Brett
conservativelifestyle.blogspot.com

Brett said...

The only thing that you've proven is that you're swallowing the liberal mantra hook, line and sinker.

Swiftboaters were not proven wrong except in your delusional world. Obama does not have experience. You want to compare him to past Presidents? Not a good idea. He's not a president and it's not looking like he will be.

But keep your dreams.

Brett
Conservativelifestyle.blogspot.com

ka_Dargo said...

OK, so now Brett's trying to thread-jack in yet another direction...those scary illegal aliens...hold me I'm frightened.

Notice how he tries to steer the topic away when he becomes lost? Maybe it's because his white supremacist buddy Jerome Corsi isn't holding his hand and feeding him cheetos.

Brett, it'll be ok.

Communications guru said...

I'm confused. Somehow owning eight homes when you have no idea how many you own, your staff - who you apparently look to for most of your answers – says four and people think its only seven is a good thing for out-of-touch Grampy McSame? Hell, it could be nine, maybe 10.

I don't know about most people, but my wife is my partner, and I know what she owns and does not own. Granted, I'm not ultra rich and out of touch, but still.... When you consider you are running for a position that will draw worldwide attention and scrutiny I think he would - or his staff - know how many homes they own.

How do you figure "anonymous:" is getting to me? I debunked hi/her./you pretty easily. I guess repeating things for people who refuse or are not smart enough to read bothers me slightly.

As for the uninsured, the link I found today from the Census Bureau says 46.6 million Americans in 2005 had no health care. It said Americans, not illegal aliens. That is an all time high, but I'm guessing it's higher. No where does it say anything about illegal aliens. When you consider they do not count them, it would not say anything about them. There is a difference between aliens and illegal aliens.

But based on those numbers, do you still stand by your ridiculous statement that health care is failing in Canada and France and not the U.S.? Its' failing for 46.6 million Americans.

Here's the link
http://www.cbpp.org/8-29-06health.htm

Communications guru said...

The smear boat merchants were proven wrong. John Kerry earned the awards he was granted. Yes, I do want to compare him to past presidents, especially the current one, and he stacks up very favorably. Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States.

Brett said...

Prove the swiftboat vets were proven wrong.

Brett

Communications guru said...

Easy. John Kerry earned three Purple Hearts and the Navy Cross. I don't know what else to say. Perhaps if you gave me some specifics. Are you saying he didn't earn them?

Brett said...

That's your proof? Looks like there are more empty suits on the left than just Barack Hussein Obama.

Brett

Communications guru said...

Where is your proof for smearing every single veteran who earned a medal?

Brett said...

I put this to a little test. I printed out what's below, minus the mine/yours parts. I asked my 11 year old daughter to read it and tell me if she could tell if there were two sides to this discussion. Then I asked her to tell me what was wrong with the discussion.

Her answer was that one person was talking about John Kerry and the other person was saying that the first person was talking about vets.

11 years old. Entering the 6th grade and she understood it. I guess that just goes to prove that not only does a child understand this discussion better than you, but also that a homeschooled child can figure out better than a supposed adult product of the government schools.

Out of the mouths of babes.

Brett


Mine:
As for Kerry's war record. That's a joke to say the least. Three purple hearts which amounted to nothing more than a bruise. The swiftboaters were never proven wrong. But again, they are debunked because you refuse to believe them.

Yours:
John Kerry is a decorated war hero. It's sad you are so anti-military and insist on smearing the troops. The smear boat vets were proven wrong. You're letting your irrational hatred of Democrats blind you to facts. Lt. Kerry earned three Purple Heats and the Navy Cross.


Mine:
Swiftboaters were not proven wrong except in your delusional world.

Yours:
The smear boat merchants were proven wrong. John Kerry earned the awards he was granted.

Yours:
Easy. John Kerry earned three Purple Hearts and the Navy Cross. I don't know what else to say. Perhaps if you gave me some specifics. Are you saying he didn't earn them?

Mine:
That's your proof? Looks like there are more empty suits on the left than just Barack Hussein Obama.

Mine:
Where is your proof for smearing every single veteran who earned a medal?

Anonymous said...

As I understand it, T Boone offered $1 million to anyone that could prove the Swift Boaters wrong. When a group of swift boat veterans provided him with irrefutable documentation, Pickens changed the conditions and welched on the deal.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/t-boone-pickens-says-no-deal/

Rick

Communications guru said...

That has to be the craziest thing you have ever posted here. Look, either you want to debate the issues or you don't. You will have to excuse me if I am a little skeptical of any claim you make because you rarely, if ever, provide a link or reference for your claims; or even better, I'll take your tack: I don't believe you have an 11-yered-old daughter.

Again, I still don't see the point you are trying to make. When you smear John Kerry, you smear every single vet who ever won a medal. Perhaps if you served in the military you might understand. How do you think vets are awarded medals? Do you think they award them to themselves?

I asked for specifies, instead you gave me a song and dance. The Purple Hearts are cut and dried, you either have a wound or you don't. Here's a link to the transcript when Nightline went to Vietnam to debunk the lies about the Silver Star:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Vote2004/story?id=166434

Do you have another claim I can debunk?

Communications guru said...

Very informative link. Thanks for that, Rick. The smear boat vets are banking that enough gullible people like brett here believe their lies blindly. That was a very good bet.

ka_Dargo said...

The right and men who live off their second wives' inherited wealth

RyanP said...

Cut the experience garbage, no one has presidential experience until they ARE the president.

Brett said...

Debate would be good, but you're not capable of debate. You've proven that.

ABC is not a reliable source. Liberal news is not reliable.

A NYTimes blog is not something that I'd consider a news source. You guys will have to do better than that.

The fact is that the swiftboat vets were not proven wrong.

As for purple hearts, the medic that handled his first "wound" said that he suggested to Kerry that he not put in for a purple heart, that he barely even needed a bandaid.

And yes, Kerry's purple hearts were based on his own written reports of what happened.

You should probably read the words of his Admiral. I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but if you're serious about finding the truth, it's easy enough to find.

Lastly, again, Kerry being a poor, average or good soldier means nothing in respect to the other servicemen. If a soldier is a poor soldier, it does not reflect on the other soldiers. Everyone is not the same. If Kerry was an embarassment, it's his responsibility alone. It doesn't make the other servicement an embarassment.

We had one private that could barely tie his boots in my company, that didn't mean that everyone couldn't tie their boots.

Apparently, one of your friends here thinks that Barack Hussein Obama is inexperienced as well, but that experience doesn't matter. Interesting aspect, but I disagree.

Brett

ka_Dargo said...

Brett, please enlighten us...what are some reliable sources?

Who gets that good old Brett seal of approval?

Are there some websites you trust? Organizations? If so, please share with the rest of us.

Brett said...

Barack Hussein Obama's choice for VP declined to accept, delaying the announcement. Obama will instead go with Evan Bayh for VP.

New slogan: Obama-bye.

Brett

ka_Dargo said...

Still no answer? Whom or what are some reliable sources?

ka_Dargo said...

Come on, Brett, share the love. Who gets a gold star from you as a reliable source?

Is it your ass? Because, you know, that would explain quite a bit.

ka_Dargo said...

According to Powerline, ties are equivalent to houses.

Who knew?

Communications guru said...

You are again, wrong. I have tried debate, but you continue with name calling. I provide references with links, you reject it. You will not let facts shake your fact-less opinions. There are reasonable people who read this who can accept facts, so I will continue to provide references when I debunk your thin arguments.

ABC News has been a mainstream news agency for many years, and the corporate media is conservative if anything. So you don’t believe ABC News, where’s your link to prove he did not earn the Silver Star?

The NYTs is as reliable news source, but you will reject any source that does not prove your point. The fact is, the smear boat vets lied, and that has been proven. Show me proof of your claim about the disputed Purple Heart.

The medic you are talking about didn’t even treat Kerry. Here’s a link:
http://www.factcheck.org/republican-funded_group_attacks_kerrys_war_record.html
Now, I challenge you to provide a link to prove your claim. You can also provide the link to what his admiral says, but I have no idea why that is even relevant. You obviously know nothing about the Navy or the military.

Kerry is a decorated war hero, and that’s all that needs to be said.

Communications guru said...

Who was his choice for VP? I didn’t know you had an inside source. I have a better nickname for former Sen. Obama, Commander-in-Chief, or Mr. President.

ka_Dargo_Hussein said...

We all wait with masturbated breath.

I'm dying to know Brett...come on...gimme my fix!!!

ka_Dargo_Hussein said...

Also, notice how he ignores his own sources...i.e. Powerline. That particular post, of course, didn't fit his world view.

Again, I say he's like that stoopid kitten that thinks it's hidden when it hides its head under the bed.

Fucking moron.

Brett said...

I've looked back at all of these comments and fail to see any name calling by me. I think you should look up the definition of debate.

ABC is a liberal outlet. While it's true that some of these organizations may be owned by Conservative people, those presenting the news (or better put, their tainted news) are liberal. Let's see, who's with ABC? George Stephanopolous. Prior to coming to ABC news he was the Clinton Communication director, and held a couple of other positions in the Clinton administration.

NBC has Tom Brokaw, and they had Tim Russert, formerly working for the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan. Then there is Chris Matthews. He's two liberals, both in size and content.

CBS, well, I don't know much about them. I refuse to watch CBS for anything since Dan Rather had the documents forged back in 2000. I believe they have Katie Couric now. She can't be described as anything but liberal.

Run through the list of commentators on those networks. You'd be hardpressed to come up with the same amount of conservatives as liberals. Impossible, I'd say.

Then there is CNN. Wolf Blitzer, Campbell Brown, Larry King, Bill Schneider, all liberal.

There in not one person in their right mind that would call the New York Times anything but liberal.

Regarding Kerry: http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200405041626.asp

I decorate my fake Christmas Tree each year, but regardless of how many decorations I put on it, it doesn't make it a real tree.

Brett
conservativelifestyle.blogspot.com

Communications guru said...

You can’t find where you stooped to name-calling? Please.

ABC is not a “liberal outlet.” Owned by conservative people? No, owned by corporations where the one guiding principal is profit.

George Stephanopolous is one commentator, not a news anchor. I won’t even talk about faux “news.” They not only have all right-wing tools, with the exception of Alan Colmes, they have criminals. What is wrong with Tom Brokaw? NBC, owned by GE, has Joe scarbough.

What makes you think Katie Couric is liberal? Any proof at all of this right-wing political strategy of the “liberal media.”

Any proof that Wolf Blitzer, Campbell Brown, Larry King or Bill Schneider are liberal? CNN has one of the biggest right-wing tools in Glenn Beck.

The New York Times is liberal? The same NYT that let Bush pull the wool over everyone’s eyes in the run up to the unnecessary Iraq invasion? Please.

The guy talked about in the conservative source you cited did not even treat Kerry.
http://www.factcheck.org/republican-funded_group_attacks_kerrys_war_record.html

You just don’t get it do you? You really are anti-troop. Again, I guess if you had ever served in the military you might understand. Every single medal or award won by every single veteran is suspect now.

No one is questioning Grampy McSame’s service.

Brett said...

I noticed that you didn't submit any proof of namecalling by me. You could find some by going to previous pieces you had, but if you look all the way through, you'll see that I didn't call any name until after you had on more than one occasion. Go ahead. Deny it. I know you're going to.

You said, "I won’t even talk about faux “news.” They not only have all right-wing tools, with the exception of Alan Colmes, they have criminals."

If you weren't going to talk about them, why did you? So Fox only has one and that is Alan Colmes huh? Juan Williams will probably think you're really out of touch. Then there's Mara something from PBS.

I don't watch Hannity and Colmes or Bill O'Reilly. I just hate turning on something where you can't understand anyone because they are all shouting at each other at the same time and I don't particularly care for Hannity. I won't even bother with Colmes.

But Hannity and Colmes, if I remember correctly put a liberal and a conservative on and split their time with Hannity talking to the liberal and Colmes talking to the Conservative. But, as I said, it's been a long time since I watched it, so if they've changed their format, then I'm not aware of it.

So once again, I've caught you in your lies.

It's interesting that you continue to say that I've never served, when you have no idea. I think the first time I even mentioned anything about my military service was a day or two ago when I talked about one guy that could barely tie his boots that it didn't reflect on the rest of us that could.

But you seem bound and determined to try to goad me into my service record, so go ahead. Prove I never served in the military. Here's a hint. Prove I never served during the Vietnam War.

Matt Lahr and Katie Couric admitted to being for Kerry four years ago on the morning program when they were both on NBC. But of course, you won't remember the uproar from people that complained that they were one sided.

I'm curious. What do you think the purpose of corporations is? Do you honestly believe that people start corporations to lose money by giving things away?

By the way, you're wrong. Not every single medal awarded to a veteran is suspect. You admitted it yourself in your next line when you said that Nobody is questioning McCains service.

Honestly, trying thinking. Try using your head for a change.

Brett

Communications guru said...

I’ll take responsibly for starting the name calling. But for 100th time: This is my blog, and you came here to attack me. I did not come to you. I have posted almost 600 articles here, and I do not have the time to go through them all. Just in the last week, you have called me a socalist and that “you might be a liberal” thing you stole. But you can keep it up if you want.

I didn’t talk about Faux “news.” I could go on and on about it if you like. Juan Williams is no liberal, and I have no idea who “Mara something” is. You need to watch haitey and Colmes if you think it’s fair and balanced.

Again, you have not caught me in a lie, and you never will. A lie is when you say something when you know the exact opposite to be true. I have never done that.

I’m sorry, I don’t believe you ever spent a day in the military. You display such ignore of the military that’s the only conclusion I can reach. I don’t have to prove anything: you made the claim. I provided a link to prove my military service. I suggest you do the same. I certainly don’t need to see your service record to prove you were in the military.

I don’t buy your claim about Matt Lahr and Katie Couric. If there was such an uproar you should have no problem providing a link. I’m not sure what it proves, but go for it.

Of course I know what the purpose of a corporation is. L:ike I said in the last comment: news agencies are owned by corporations and the one guiding principal above all others is profit.

Again, you show your ignorance of the military. Of course questioning the medals Sen, Kerry won brings them all into question. Grampy McSame’s service is one thing his medals are another, I have no idea what ones he has earned, but he probably didn’t earn them if Kerry didn’t earn his.

“Try think?” Honestly, what is you’re doing?

ka_Dargo said...

Here's some name calling for you:
Brett = liar
Brett = rumor monger
Brett = kool-aid drinking moron
Brett = Republican Pearl Clutcher

I've got some more if you want'em.

You've got a lot of nerve coming in here complaining about name calling when you call the blogger a liar at every turn.

Brett said...

Hmm, you want debate, yet you whine when someone disagrees. I didn't come here to attack. I came here to read other points of view. Each time I post a response on one of your pieces, it's about the topic.

If you say something wrong, I call you on it. Then you go ballistic. If you don't like what I say, there are a couple of things you can do. Cut me off or ignore me. I ignore your other personna that has nothing to say but does show that the extent of the vocabulary that personna has doesn't expand beyond four letters.

Go ahead one time and see if you can ignore me or block me from the site. It's much better than whining because someone actually disagrees with you and isn't afraid the four other people reading actually read that someone disagrees with you.

I'm not afraid of deleting offensive language on my blog. I do it whenever someone uses foul language and will continue to do so. You can do the same if you don't like what I have to say.

Brett

Communications guru said...

I will not let your lies and falsehoods go unchallenged. I should just take your debate style: ignore what I can�t dispute. What is it I�m whining about? Sorry, you came here with your attacks, I don�t come to you to do the same. You cannot honestly say with a straight face you �post a response on one of your pieces, it's about the topic.� You just need to look at my post about the House candidate debates.
I �go ballistic?� Are you serious? First, everything you say I disagree with, so I would constantly be �going ballistic.� But the difference between you and is I back up my claims with a reference, you rarely, if ever do.

My�other persona?� I post as Communications Grus and no other person. I guess you should ignore him because he has you pegged for what you are. Again, I will not let your lies go unchallenged.

I do not censor anyone, and I will not start with a lightweight like you, no matter how annoying, insulting and hateful. Unlike you, I do not censor, and I never will. Plus, you do more for my side anyway. You are welcome to post anytime. Alleged �foul language does not bother me: I spent 20 years in the military. This is s blog for adults.
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Brett said...

Nahh, I ignore that name because that name doesn't have anything to say worthwhile and that name does it with such a limited vocabulary.

I'll be the bigger man here and accept your apology regardless of how wrong it is.

Now, you may have the last word.

Brett

Communications guru said...

There you go again: when you can’t address a point you ignore it. I have nothing to apologize for. I’ll get the last word, but certainly not because you granted it. Again, I will not let your lies stand.