Aug 18, 2010

There is no reason the Islamic community center in lower Manhattan should not be built

The things the rightwing chooses to make an issue over never ceases to amaze me, as does why people, especially Democrats, listen to them.

One such non-issue is the plan to build an Islamic community center in lower Manhattan. It has been characterized by the right as building an Islamic Mosque at the site of the so-called Ground Zero at the site of the former World Trade Center where the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 took place, when the facts are it is not a Mosque and its three blocks from ground zero.

Even if it were a Mosque being built right over the top of ground zero, so what? This country was founded on religious freedom. Now, some rightwing bigots, like Steve Emerson, have made a career bashing one of the world's’ great religions, but this is just ridiculous.

The reaction is just typical of people like Emerson who promote racial profiling of men of Middle Eastern descent and make the false claim that all Muslim groups are terrorist front groups. The 9/11 terrorists were extremists and not representative of the Muslim religion.

Every religion has extremists that are way out of the mainstream. Christians do not embrace the idiots at the Westboro Baptist Church who claim God hates America because we offer, almost, equal rights to gays. Just because these idiots show up at the funerals of soldiers and sailors killed in Iraq and Afghanistan with signs that say “God hates fags” does that mean all Christens feel the same way or support that action?

To me, building a Mosque or a Muslim community center there sends a clear message to the world and the Muslim extremists that the United States is the greatest and most open and free country in the world, and no matter how hard you try, we will never give up an ounce of our freedom or civil liberties in the face of cowardly terrorism. If it doesn’t get built because of hate, prejudice and intolerance, then the terrorists on 9/11 accomplished their mission.

Clearly, if the community center meets local zoning laws and is approved by the local planning commission it should be built, and there is absolutely no reason it should not be built.


trencherbone said...

The Victory Mosque is just the visible tip of a very large iceberg. Beneath the surface of Western societies, Muslims are waging a campaign of infiltration, subversion, sedition and social sabotage, with the objective of destroying our countries and way of life from within.

Communications guru said...

I only have one word to describe that comment: Bullshit.

Not Anonymous said...

You have got to be the biggest moron on the planet. Those people build mosques on the sites of their triumphs.

The only bullshit here is the shit you have for brains.

You turn everything into racism which is one of the reasons that racism, true racism, is now being watered down.

3,000 people died on that site at the hands of terrorists. All of the terrorists were of Arab descent. They were all acting under the orders of radical islamists under the guidance of Usama bin Laden.

Those 3,000 were innocent citizens murdered by cowards that called themselves soldiers in a religious war that they started.

You're a fucking coward with no balls. You whine about Iraq with lies and you whine about Afghanistan and you whine about national security.

Don't even dare throw your so called credentials out there. I don't care if you were in the navy or armed services or the boy scouts. Whatever you should have learned there, didn't take. You're a brainless coward without balls.

We can't pass a law that stops them because that would violate the Constitution, but the bureaucratic morons can't even get a memorial decided on and approved for ground zero. In addition, there is a Greek Orthodox church that was destroyed at ground zero and after nine years they haven't been able to get rebuilt, but you pussy's in the socialist democrat party want to snivel down and wipe the asses of the very cowards that murdererd 3,000 AMerican citizens who's only action was to show up for work that day.

I've never thought much about name calling and I've always thought it was funny that you constantly engage in it then whine if someone dares repeats your words. But you have earned the title of coward, pussy, wimp, gutless, and a myriad of other terms that could be used for your lack of standards, common sense and patriotism.

All in all, you're just a fucking idiot. Go back to your mom's basement and hide out.

By the way, Christian is spelled C-h-r-i-s-t-i-a-n you asshole.

Not Anonymous said...

By the way asshole, do some research. The mosque that is to be built will be two blocks from ground zero in a city where there are already 100 mosques.

Communications guru said...

Wow. An anonymous coward that hides who he is and smears people calling someone else a coward and a pussy. That’s a good one.

Thanks for the compliments. Coming from an anonymous coward like you, it means a lot.

I hope they build the Islamic Community Center right on top of where the WTC sat because it just means the U.S. Constitution means what it says.

“Those people build mosques on the sites of their triumphs.” It didn’t take you long to float that talking point. Exactly who are “those people?” I don’t know if that’s true, but how is it any different than Christians?

You are a racist, anonymous coward, and you just proved it by smearing an entire race of people and a religion.

“All of the terrorists were of Arab descent? So what? Timothy McVeigh murdered168 people in a terrorist attack. Does that mean all right-wingers are terrorists?

I have never lied, and I challenge you, as always, to show me one, and you never have and never will, anonymous coward.

I will “throw my credentials out there” because I back up what I say, unlike you.

Once again, anonymous coward, there is no such thing as a Socialist Democrat in the United States, and that is just a false, Republican smear.

Seriously? “I've never thought much about name calling?” That’s where you go every single time you get beat with the facts. I have never called you a name. What do you call someone who personally smears someone then hides behind a false name? You call them an anonymous coward, and that is exactly what you are.

Why don’t you call me a “coward, pussy, wimp, gutless, and a myriad of other terms” to my face? That’s why you will always be a coward.

The only one “hiding out” is you, anonymous coward.

Again, anonymous coward, I’m still waiting for you to back up your outrageous lie that we were “nearly shoulder to shoulder once.”

Communications guru said...

By the way, anonymous coward, do some research, the Islamic Community Center is proposed three blocks from Ground Zero. There are more than 6,500 Christian churches in the city. What is your point, anonymous coward?

Again, anonymous coward, I’m still waiting for you to back up your outrageous lie that we were “nearly shoulder to shoulder once.”

Not Anonymous said...

You've already proven that you're not to be trusted with peoples personal information when you outed that other person awhile back. That makes you no better than those that steal others identities and since the guy said you put children in danger, that makes you on a par with a pedophile.

Of course you want the mosque built on the site. You're anti American. You don't care about the feelings of the families that lost loved ones on 9/11. You care more about showing how tolerant you are of other religions, including those that attacked this country. Perhaps you don't understand. Those people want to kill Americans and they have succeeded.

Play word games all you like. You damn good and well that those people are the terrorists. They are crossing our borders in the south. They are coming in with student visas and nobody is doing anything to see to it that they honor our laws. Instead, you want press one for English, press two for spanish, press three for farci, press four for bomb making technology and so on.

If you don't know who those people are, then you are even a bigger asshole than I thought.

Timothy McVeigh was a mass murderer and he was a citizen and he was tried and convicted and executed for his crimes.

You have been nailed in lies on numerous occasions by me and by others. You not admitting your lies doesn't make them the truth.

You're only out for yourself. You're jealous of those that earn more money than you and whine that they want to keep the fruits of their labor while you sit in your moms basement jacking off all day and banging away on a computer rather than earning a living. Notice I said "earning". Not getting something for nothing. Get off your fat ass and get a job. You have way too much time on your hands.

Actually, I think you ought to pack up and move to the middle east. I'm sure they'll welcome you. They like all that hate all that America stands for.

You don't know if it's true that they build mosques on the sites of their triumphs? If you don't know that it's true, then how can you say that there is no reason to stop them from building a mosque at the site of 9/11? Thank you for proving how ignorant you as well as being an asshole. You want to know how it's different from Christians? Simple. How many Baptist Churches do you find in the middle east? How many lutheran? How many Catholic? How many presbyterian?

You might as well face it. You're anti christian, anti American and yes, there are socialist Democrats in this country. Want to see one? Look in the mirror your worthless piece of shit.

Communications guru said...

Here’s the bottom line, anonymous coward: I put my real name and photo on my blog and take ownership of what I write. You personally attack me with false smears and hide behind an anonymous name. That says it all.

No, I want the Islamic Community Center built there because I’m pro-American.

No, “those people” are not the terrorists, any more than every single Christian is a terrorist because of Timothy McVeigh.

I have never lied, and you have never proved otherwise, anonymous coward.

Ah, the false personal smears. Who is the coward and pussy? You. I’m still waiting for you to say that to my face.

How many Baptist Churches do you find in the middle east? How many Lutheran? How many Catholic? How many Presbyterian? I don’t have the exact number, but they have them. But we are not the Middle East. We are the greatest country in the world that was built on religious freedom.

I’m more pro-American that you can ever hope to be, anonymous coward. Once again, anonymous coward, there is no such thing as a Socialist Democrat in the United States, and that is just a false, Republican smear.

Again, anonymous coward, I’m still waiting for you to back up your outrageous lie that we were “nearly shoulder to shoulder once.”