In the fight to save record profits for health insurance providers, defeat the President politically and ignore the more than 47 million Americans without health care, Republicans have come up with a new, slick talking point: The health care “Experiment.”
People are seeing through the talking point that the government will get between the patient and the doctor; especially when insurance companies routinely dictate what tests and treatment the patient can have. The latest false talking point and fear-mongering tactic the Republicans were pushing was the President’s health care reform plan would outlaw all private medical insurance and that the federal government takes over healthcare. That one, although, blatantly false, is gaming some traction.
On Tuesday, health insurance giant United Health Group Inc. reported a second quarter profit of $859 million, a 155 percent increase from the $337 million earned during the same quarter a year ago. That in despite enrollment falling off. While most companies are losing money, the for profit insurance providers are posting record profits. They are spending more than $1.4 million a day to lobby against reform, and they have Republicans fighting against real reform.
RNC Chair Michael Steele used the “experiment” talking point in almost every sentence at a recent speech on health care. The RNC is even launching TV ads using the word experiment. Steele and Republicans, who didn’t even know who provides his health care, has made defeating the President the number one goal above all else.
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http://www.defendyourhealthcare.us/
Do you have the guts to read the facts? I doubt it.
I read it; it's simply not true.
The article tells you what is and cites page numbers. Your response? "It's simply not true."
Health care reform is slipping away. Tough spot to be in if you're a socialist Democrat. If it fails, Obama fails. If it passes, even the socialist Democrats say they'll have an election tsunami, and Obama still fails, but worst of all, the country fails.
That is correct, it’s not true. If you want to make your argument and use them as a source go for it, and I’ll debunk your argument.
It may be a tough spot for a socialist Democrat to be in, but I don’t know any, and there are none in this country. The tough spot has to be pulling for your own country to fail just so you can beat the president as he tries to save the country after the mess Bush left it in.
The insurance comas need you help to keep their monopoly so they can reap record profits while denying care.
Again, you don't give any substance to your claim that it's not true. You have no credibility so your word isn't going to work. Prove your position or look the fool.
You might also want to look up the definition of monopoly.
Have you started caring for your wife yet and gotten her the insurance that is so necessary? Of course not. You're willing to let you wife hang out there in the wind. What difference does it make to you? You have coverage if anything happens to you. But if anything happens to her, you're willing to let her suffer. And you think anyone is going to believe anything you have to say about health care in this country?
I'll check back later to see if you actually do have something to refute what that site lists as the problems where they give the page number of the bill in progress. But I know you won't have anything to refute it. It's just interesting to see you throw out your excuses.
Again, make an argument; if you can, and I'll refute it.
As I suspected. You have nothing to show that what is in the link that I sent is untrue as you say.
Gee, and you had all day to come up with just one thing. Sad. Very sad. Oh well, can't say I didn't give you the opportunity.
This is pretty simple: make your own argument so I can debunk or shut up. Or, you can try and debunk me. I'm not holding my breath.
Not Anonymous I'm not a fan of reading corporate fronted sites, this debate should be framed as this the Republicans have admitted two things 1. they have no plan of their own and two their own moviation in stopping health care reform is because they want to hurt the president politically.
Little Johnny, you want to change the debate topic because you can't respond to the facts as presented. Those facts listed on that site cite sources to back up the facts. So it's only natural that you'd want to change the debate from the facts to your interpretation of the reasons behind the Republicans positions againts the proposed health care reform.
Facts are sourced and cited about this being a government takeover. Naturally, you and guru are afraid to deal with that. Facts are sourced and cited about the appointments made by the President to achieve that takeover but you and guru want to avoid that and delve into mind reading of Republicans. Facts about the plan are cited with page numbers, but you and guru and others want to stay away from those because you've all been saying the opposite of what the plan says.
You're not a fan of reading corporate fronted sites? I don't blame you for avoiding that one. It, after all, presents the facts with sourcing.
You'd prefer to talk about motivation of Republicans? I'm not into reading other peoples minds, and I can tell you that you're not capable of reading my mind. Especially if you're a female.
You are 100 percent correct, Johnny. You can also add they do not want to harm the record profits of insurance companies that are spending $1.4 million a day lobbying against reform.
It’s bad enough he’s trying to pass off his misguided opinion as fact, but now he’s trying to pass off someone else’s opinion as fact.
How lame.
My God, you ARE an airhead. They give the bill, they cite the page of the item they are talking about and you can check it out yourself. I thought you said you read it? I guess you lied about that too.
When they give a pdf of the bills from both the House and the Senate and they cite the page number so you can read it for yourself, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. It's in the bills that are being processed.
You're a perfect fit for the socialist Democrats. You're a complete moron and you proved it with your own words. Sheesh.
First, there is no such thing in this country as a “socialist Democrat this country, and that is just a fascist Republican talking point. Second, thanks for the compliment; coming from someone like you it really means something. Like I said about - I don’t know - five times now, make your argument and I’ll debunk it. Stop passing off someone else’s opinion off as fact; Make your own point, if you are capable.
Look at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
2 live there.
Both "Socialist Democrats"
Long time no hear, Hate the USA. For all you add to the debate you could have stayed away. There is no such thing as a “socialist” Democrat in this country, and that is just a fascist Republican talking point.
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