Gov. Jennifer Granholm will talk about subjects that are on the mind of every Michigan resident -- the economy, jobs, health care, education and more -- during a special televised town hall meeting Wednesday night in which she will take questions live.
The state’s six NBC affiliates will broadcast the meeting live beginning at 8, originating from Grand Rapids. The meeting will be moderated by WDIV Detroit anchor Devin Scillian and WOOD Grand Rapids political reporter Rick Albin.
“Michigan's economy has been challenged like no other state in the nation, and I am looking forward to talking with citizens on how we can move our state forward," Granholm said. "I am grateful to the NBC affiliates for their generosity in hosting and broadcasting a town hall on this very important issue."
The meeting will be aired as a public service on WDIV Local 4 in Detroit, WOOD-TV8 in Grand Rapids, WEYI-TV NBC25 in Saginaw, WILX-TV10 in Lansing, WPBN/WTOM TV 7 and 4in Traverse City and WLUC-TV6 in Marquette.
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The one across the board FACT when dealing with liberals is that FACTS
do not make any difference to them. How else could you, say that a recall effort, an avenue provided to us by the Constitution of the State of Michigan and the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, is circumventing the election process?
However, your lack of knowledge or perhaps your avoidance of them permeates most of your posts. A Liberal charging conservative with hating is like the kettle calling the pot black. Most of your posts ooze hate from conservative pundits to the "mother of all" liberal hate targets, President Bush. While trying to indict conservatives you conveniently forget that President Clinton WAS impeached and disbarred and that he admitted to an adulterous relationship with a woman young enough to be his daughter, disgracing the office of the President of the United States. His "legacy" can be seen in recent scandals like Elliot Spitzer and Kwane Kilpatrick.
In addition, your post of Kilpatrick's state of city address as something even close to legitimate anymore is Felliniesque. He, like his "mentor", President Clinton by his own behavior, is a lying, weak willed narcissistic, engaging in disgraceful behavior yet unable or unwilling to do the right thing by the citizens and the office he represents and resign.
Not hate just FACTS as President Clinton when caught, DID admit to adultery while
on the taxpayer's dime. And despite Kilpatrick's own angry denial of them
overwhelming FACTS as reported by the Free Press on the many scandals during his "administration."
As far as Homosexual activist Jon Stryker, his campaign contributions contribute to one self serving purpose, to advance a homosexual agenda, including same sex marriage by funding campaigns to unseat anti-gay incumbents in Michigan.
Moreover, as far as Rush Limbaugh, obviously millions of people disagree with you as Rush has had and has an incredible successful radio show for years. Which cannot be said about Air America can it?
Thanks for posting; I appreciate hearing from everyone, no matter how wrong, misguided or downright rude. I’m not sure what this rant has to do with the Governor’s town hall meeting, but I still welcome your comments.
“How else could you, say that a recall effort, an avenue provided to us by the Constitution of the State of Michigan and the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, is circumventing the election process?” Easy. The primarily Democratic lawmakers are being recalled because they did their job and voted, not because they did anything wrong. The fact that their vote ensured the Michigan Government did not shut down is almost irrelevant. The republicans behind this attempt to circumvent the will of the people had no problems voting to spend that money the tax increase brought in. The republicans lost the majority in the House, and this is how they are trying to get it back. I don’t think you’re stupid, just misguided, so you know as well as I do that if you give a voter the option of voting to allow a politicians to keep their job the answer will be no; no matter what party they are from.
If I demonstrate a lack of knowledge, please point it out.
I make no bones I dislike Bush, but more importantly I dislike what he has done to my country. It’s a testament to how great this country is that it can survive even with someone as incompetent as Bush at the helm. I never forgot Clinton was impeached, but that was strictly a political move. Bob Dole said on election night in 1992 they would get him, and they spared no money, principal or the country to do it. Can you tell me what his infidelity had to do with a failed land deal in Arkansas? Or why it took more than $40 million in tax money to find out he was unfaithful to his wife? You can bring up Elliot Spitzer and Kwane Kilpatrick all you want, but Democrats have a long way to go to equal republican scandals. Most Republic scandals involve money and corruption. You forgot Jack Abermoff and Duke Cunningham, as well as Larry Craig and David Vitter. Vitter did the same thing as Spitzer. Why is he still in office?
I agree Kilpatrick should resign. It’s a shame after all the good he did for the city, but it bothers me that it seems that he feels he did nothing wrong.
I don’t know if Jon Stryker is a “Homosexual activist,” but I don’t care. With all the money rich republicans pump into your party's coffers I say thank God for Jon Stryker. You’re upset that Stryker’s contributions further his agenda? Do you know how ridcliopus that sounds? That’s exactly why people support candidates, including giving them money, they agree with you. I support same sex marriage, by the way.
Air America had been around for only, what four years, Limbaugh had been around a little longer. You give liberal talk radio half a chance and it will thrive. That has been proven. By the way, if Limbaugh is your hero and role model no wonder you have no morals.
Comrade communicatons guru,
You have got to be kidding me. You say the following "By the way, if Limbaugh is your hero and role model no wonder you have no morals."
By your implicit bowing down to the feet of Bill Clinton you have proven sir that you have not morals.
By the way Mr. know it all, Bill Clinton was not impeached because he defiled a young girl, he was impeached because he lied to the court. I thought you said you do your research? You did not know this. So is it going to be you as a socialist who is going to tell all of us beneath you what we can and can not lie about to the law.
Please comrade, do your research before you post. Or maybe you should listen to "Renk" on WBCK so you might learn something.
Oh by the way Liberals fail miserably on the airwaves consistently because their message is one of socialism and taking money from those who earn it and giving it to those who do not.
And I am not talking about people who need the help. It has been proven time and time again that Conservatives and Republicans give far more to the poor and needy than the Liberals or Democrats. And I am not just talking about dollar amounts but percentage of take home pay.
Apakcof2 is right, facts mean nothing to people like you. They only get in the way. You and your socialist brothen make decisions on emotion and emotion only. Oh also you like to spend other peoples money.
Republicans are the party of hope not handouts.
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish and he will eat his entire life.
First, I’m not your friend nor am I a communist, so you can stop calling me what you call the rest of your friends.
Yes, “By the way, if Limbaugh is your hero and role model no wonder you have no morals."
President Clinton is not my hero, but he is one of the best presidents of the greatest country in the world. Clinton never “defiled a young girl.” What a ridclious statement. He certainly was impeached for getting a BJ. For proof, you just need to look how we went from a special prosecutor who was supposed to investigate a failed land deal to asking the president about his personal life. I have done my research, but thanks for asking. I also don’t need some unknown right-wing radio guy telling me how or what to think.
Liberal radio has not failed, and when it’s allowed in a radio market it thrives.
My “socialist brothen (sic)” do not make decisions on emotions. It seems to me your ridclious rant is pretty emotional. I don’t know if socialists like to spend other people’s’s money or not because I don’t know any, but if you are referring to taxes, that is the peoples money. We elect people to make decisions on how to best spend the money that benefits us all.
Republicans are the party of handouts, all right, but it’s to the rich who don’t need it. We have people working two and three jobs just to make ends meet that don’t have the most basic of health care, and I’m a socialist for thinking that’s wrong?
I’ll happily take your misguided insults because I know the difference between right and wrong and fair and unfair.
Communications guru,
Bill Clinton ruined this country, he had the most corrupt and unethical president we ever had.
What exactly did he do? And please do not give me the economy crap. An administration, any administration Republican or Democrat gets way more credit and blame for the economy than they deserve. This economy is too large for any administration to do a whole lot of good or harm.
What an administration can do is help business by lowering taxes and hurt business by raising taxes.
And if you listened to Renk he does not tell people what to think he tells them facts and allows people to dispute the facts or disagree with him. If you know soo much why do you not challenge him then. Also who said he was right wing - YOU.
Also can you not read or do you like most liberals like to take things out of context. I said the Republican party is the party of hope not handouts. The Democrat party is the party of hand outs.
So you can either not read well or I suspect you like to take other peoples words and twist them. You said the following:
"Republicans are the party of handouts"
Why do I bother with you, facts only get in your way.
I don’t happen to think this country is "ruined." Plus, if we can survive the boob we have in office now we can survive anything. Actually, the most corrupt and unethical president we ever had is in office now, and you can also add incompetent to that list.
The president has nothing to do with the economy? Are you serious? Since you're too much of a coward to even identify yourself, I have no idea if you are from Michigan like I am. We have your party blaming the governor for the slow economy in Michigan when everybody knows governors have very little effect on the economy and the federal government does. So the president does get some credit for the booming economy. He also gets credit for the low unemployment and low inflation, even decent gas prices.
He eliminated the budget deficit and created a budget surplus, the first time in a long time. As for your “lowering taxes,” Clinton cut federal spending by $255 billion over 5 years, and he made new tax cuts available to over 90 percent of small businesses.
He also reduced government. That’s supposed to be what Republicans do, but we see that’s not the case if you look at Bush and Clinton. Clinton cut the federal bureaucracy by more than 272,000 positions -- its lowest level since the Kennedy’s 100,000 positions, and he reduced the White House staff by 25 percent.
He brokered the historic Israeli-Palestinian Declaration of Principles in September, 1993, and the signing of the Israeli-Jordan Washington Principles in July, 1994.
Also, there were no invasions of any foreign countries based on cherry picked intelligence, and there were no attacks on U.S. soil where 3,000 people were killed; hell, there weren’t even any where just 25 people were killed. I’ll let you read his accomplishments yourself, http://home.att.net/~jrhsc/jobwelldone.html
I have no idea who “Renk” is nor do I even care or have any desire to find out.
Again, who-ever-you-are, I can read fine. The republic party is the party of handouts, but they go to the richest 1 percent who don’t need them. The Democratic Party is the party of hope. What’s unclear about that or taken out of context?
I don’t know why you bother with me either. As for facts, I’m waiting to see one fact from you.
I am done with you, you have totally drank the liberal kool-aid
You said the following:
"have your party blaming the governor for the slow economy in Michigan when everybody knows governors have very little effect on the economy and the federal government does"
Man you are gone, that is like saying your parents are to/blame for you stupidity it is the Presidents fault. The Governor has more control over you than the President. Did you graduate High School yet.
"He eliminated the budget deficit and created a budget surplus, the first time in a long time. As for your “lowering taxes,” Clinton cut federal spending by $255 billion over 5 years, and he made new tax cuts available to over 90 percent of small businesses.
He also reduced government. That’s supposed to be what Republicans do, but we see that’s not the case if you look at Bush and Clinton. Clinton cut the federal bureaucracy by more than 272,000 positions -- its lowest level since the Kennedy’s 100,000 positions, and he reduced the White House staff by 25 percent."
The Congress was run by Republicans and the Republicans did all that. The President only sets agenda's and maybe some policy but the Congress passes it.
"He brokered the historic Israeli-Palestinian Declaration of Principles in September, 1993, and the signing of the Israeli-Jordan Washington Principles in July, 1994"
Or really that is why their is peace there now and there are no problems.
Also, there were no invasions of any foreign countries based on cherry picked intelligence, and there were no attacks on U.S. soil where 3,000 people were killed; hell, there weren’t even any where just 25 people were killed. I’ll let you read his accomplishments yourself,
There was more than 14,000 deaths of service men and woman during Clintons Presidency and somewere around 7,000 deaths during Bush admin so far. Who killed more service people? I guess old Willy did.
You keep saying you have given me you name, what is it? I have never seen a name on here only Comm guru.
My name is "Snowman" there feel better. How is that less of a name then Comm guru.
little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democrat Congress in 2006 we've seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) the cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion
dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
I am so glad you're through with me. Now I can stop wasting my time trying to reason with a closed mind. Other than that, I don’t understand the rest of your rant. It makes no sense. Yes, I did say the following.
Yes I graduated from high school, but judging from your sentence structure, I have serious doubts about your education level. Are you disputing the fact that the federal government has more control over the economy than the governor, any governor?
Oh, so now the president has no power, and anything accomplished in the Clinton years is because of Congress? Since I did graduate from high school, I seem to remember that the executive branch, the legislative branch and the judiciary are all supposed to equal branches of the government.
I don’t think there will ever completely be peace in the Middle East, but there was considerably less violence then, and we actually had a foreign policy then.
Great rightwing talking point about military deaths under Clinton. Too bad, like most of the talking points that hit your inbox and you regurgitate, it’s a lie. Here’s the difference between you and I; when I make a claim, I gave you a link, like with the Clinton accomplishments. You don’t. Where’s your link for the claim of 14,000 military deaths under Clinton? Well, I’ll give you one to debunk it.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/deaths.asp
As for the name; first, anything I write comes under the name “Communications Guru.” No one else has that handle, so if you see something written by Communications Guru, I wrote it. Anyone can write under the name anonymous. Second, if you look in the profile box you will see my real name. Third, this was posted under anonymous, not “Snowman.”
What a joke. Type this phrase form your post, who-ever-you-are, into any search engine and see how many hits you get.
“little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democrat Congress in 2006 we've seen:”
My question is, do Republicans ever have an original thought? Can they post something besides the talking points they get from their inbox? Show me a link for these claims, other than another rightwing blog.
Your last post, I think it was you or perhaps it was “snowman,” proved you can get stats to say anything. To suggest that the worst president we have ever had has no responsibility for things that have been going down hill since shortly after he took office is ridiculous.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
You send me to a left wingers blog at http://home.att.net/~jrhsc/jobwelldone.html
And tell me those are facts. Then you have the balls to question my facts as "Talking points" even if they were talking points they would be better then a guys blog.
You really got to be kidding me. I wished I would have looked at the site before.
You really must be a novice at this, there is no way you are journalist.
As far as the military deaths go, I will check into that and if I am wrong I will admit it.
I am just sitting here laughing my ass off right now. I have finally exposed you as a fraud.
I still can not believe you sent me to a left winger blog and said that is your facts.
You spread nothing but left wing lies.
Sir you are a fraud!
I thought you said you were done with me, who-ever-you-are?
Wow. I’m am really stung. Some idiot who doesn't have the courage to take ownership of his own writing calls me a fraud. Just in case you missed the sarcasm, I could give a rat's ass what some anonymous right-winger thinks of me, especially when there are no facts to back it up.
Yes, what you posted, if that was you that posted the “little over one year ago,” were nothing but talking points, debunked ones at that. Again, type that stupid little title in ant web browser and see how many times it comes up, and to top if off it’s completely false.
I had no idea it was a “left wing blog,” what ever that is, nor does it matter. There is no reference I could cite where you would give Bill Clinton any credit because you are so blinded by hate. You can’t, of course, dispute anything on the list so you, as usual, attack the messenger. That’s why we have this ridiculous political strategy of the “liberal media” myth that allows losers like you to have a ready made defense against things you can't refute, like this.
So now, are you are saying the neutral snopes site is “left wing?” How long does it take for you to read were it says those talking points on military deaths are false?
If I’m such a novice then why am I kicking your sorry ass? Somehow, I am a fraud because I allegedly cite a “left-wing blog,” but you are standing by talking points that were debunked by a neutral web site that specializes in debunking urban legends. The difference is I debunked what you posted; I’m waiting for you to try. If you want to see a fraud, look in the mirror, who-ever-you-are.
"Kicking my ass"?
You butt has been so bloodied on this battle field your mother would not recognize you. I have been making mince meat of you.
Why should I respond to "facts" from a persons blog that was created only to speak about Clinton. I would not waste my time as I would not expect you to waste your time if I was to be stupid enough and point you to a persons blog that only spoke about Bush's success.
I will be the bigger man and say that I was wrong when I gave those death figures and concerning Clinton's and Bush's administrations. I should have checked those on snopes or factcheck.org.
But lets be truthful, approx 7,500 military personal died during Clintons 8 years and as of 6 years under Bush 8792. That is only a 1292 difference. The difference in the end will not be that big, although every death means something to someone so I do not want to be little them.
Show me some real facts and I will respond to them.
Yes, I kicked your ass. I don’t know how you can possibly claim victory. I have countered every myth and lie you tried to float. As for facts, I presented the Clinton accomplishments, and you dismiss them with your typical rightwing blame the messenger strategy.
I guess my mistake was giving you a link. I should have just presented the Clinton accomplishments without a link like you do, but I have this annoying habit of presenting a source when I present a group of facts. Regardless of where they were presented, they are accurate. Obviously, your irrational hatred of the Clintons will never allow you to see that and any source I present you will attack that messenger.
That’s great you are admitting you lied about the death figures, so “I guess old Willy did” not kill more. “Let’s be truthful?” That coming from a person who used made up figurers to make a point? I don’t think so. But what’s 1,292 dead parents, sons, daughters, brothers, sisters and spouses among friends, right?
Like the report on Snopes says; with 1,014 deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2007 factored in, "the discrepancy will be even greater.” The figures that are just as important that we don’t see are the soldiers that are maimed and lost limbs. Medical technology has advanced so much that combat deaths per causality in this illegal invasion and occupation are at an all time low, thank God. That’s the good news, but the bad news is the administration has done very little for those returning wounded veterans, both physically and mentality.
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