tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post2517902438017398056..comments2023-11-03T08:09:15.690-05:00Comments on The Conservative Media: The public does not support GOP union bustingCommunications guruhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-63166618077205019452011-04-05T09:39:45.293-05:002011-04-05T09:39:45.293-05:00I’m sorry, but I must disagree with you. What is g...I’m sorry, but I must disagree with you. What is going on in Wisconsin, Ohio and even in Michigan is union busting. The unions in Wisconsin have given the concessions he wants, but that’s not what he wants; he wants to bust the unions. He made that pretty clear when he thought he was talking to David Koch. <br /><br />Yes, unions were created to protect workers, and that is what they are doing.Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-25714730477522063062011-04-05T09:30:58.386-05:002011-04-05T09:30:58.386-05:00Ques 8 is tell-tale: Cuts are for the betterment o...Ques 8 is tell-tale: Cuts are for the betterment of the people not to bust the union. I'm a union member and have been for 24 years. However, the people, no matter those who pay taxes for public employees, or higher prices for retail, to even higher costs in medicine should not have to bear the brunt of benefits for everyone of these members. Unions were created to protect the Ametican Brooklyn Bloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14005088011585588530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-54420744236508899082011-03-04T21:38:09.951-05:002011-03-04T21:38:09.951-05:00There is no such person as “Commie Guru.” However,...There is no such person as “Commie Guru.” However, I will accept you compliment; coming from a genius like you it means a lot.<br /><br />The Civil Service Act of 1978 did not bar collective bargaining. Man, you really are misinformed, and what’s even funny is you think you know what you’re talking about. Yes, Ronald Reagan fired the air traffic controllers because they went on strike, but guess Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-44934806462962028632011-03-04T16:24:34.155-05:002011-03-04T16:24:34.155-05:00Commie Guru, thou art the worlds stupidest blogger...Commie Guru, thou art the worlds stupidest blogger. I dont bestow that on anyone very lightly either. Jimmy Carter and the Democrats controlling Congress passed this legislation called the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978. Do yourself a favor and read up on it. Also in 1980, PATCO and the teamsters all endorsed Reagan OH MY!!!!! Look up why Reagan fired everyone too btw, the union air bradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10044289933027711189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-85516729845139822482011-03-03T18:14:57.770-05:002011-03-03T18:14:57.770-05:00Are you kidding me? The poll is very clear.
No, ...Are you kidding me? The poll is very clear. <br /><br />No, the issue is collective bargaining, period. Again, the union does not and has never protected bad teachers. The union protects due process, and due process is a right guaranteed in the Constitution. It costs nothing to take union dues out of check, just like they do it for the United Way campaign or for a 401k.<br /><br />No, you said Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-25929574190286618382011-03-03T17:00:34.059-05:002011-03-03T17:00:34.059-05:00Please remove my yahoo address as a follower.
T...Please remove my yahoo address as a follower. <br /><br />The number of that poll you are referring to is #8 or #9 I believe, where they do not elaborate on what is involved within the collective bargaining which you showed as well you didnt know either. Also, when you have a large group of questions like this, there is an agenda there to make the person being polled agree with your agenda/bradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10044289933027711189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-49271232631098831652011-03-03T12:37:00.370-05:002011-03-03T12:37:00.370-05:00My God, are you stupid? The question was :
“As yo...My God, are you stupid? The question was :<br /><br />“As you may know, collective bargaining refers to negotiations between an employer and a labor union's members to determine the conditions of employment. Some states are trying to take away some of the collective bargaining rights of “public employee unions.” Do you favor or oppose taking away some of the collective bargaining rights of Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-83878488049023750512011-03-03T12:09:53.477-05:002011-03-03T12:09:53.477-05:00That paragraph you refer to isnt part of the polli...That paragraph you refer to isnt part of the polling. The first question in the poll says labor unions it does NOT refer to public sector. Why arent you going after Jimmy Carter and the Dems for making sure Fed Unions do not get the "right" to collective bargain?<br /><br />As for Wisconsin collective bargaining, they want to change or get rid of TENURE. You cant fire crappy teachersbradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10044289933027711189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-62115659771104305822011-03-03T12:01:38.755-05:002011-03-03T12:01:38.755-05:00“What "rights" are in the collective bar...“What "rights" are in the collective bargaining?” The right to assemble and band together and sell your labor.<br /><br />Can you read? The poll certainly does address public sector unions. The first paragraph says, “A majority of Americans say they oppose efforts to weaken the collective bargaining rights of public employee unions and are also against cutting the pay or benefits of Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-47441860395930486432011-03-03T11:48:58.757-05:002011-03-03T11:48:58.757-05:00What "rights" are in the collective barg...What "rights" are in the collective bargaining? <br /><br />The poll you refer to doesnt say public sector nor give up facts showing wages and benefits and who pays for what. It just says labor unions in general. That there in doesnt provide accurate polling questioning.bradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10044289933027711189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-65935854732141193462011-03-03T11:44:25.966-05:002011-03-03T11:44:25.966-05:00That is correct, a majority of Americans are behin...That is correct, a majority of Americans are behind them. Those are pretty reliable polls, but if you have some proof to dispute it, please take your best shot. Correct again, people aren’t against unions, and that includes public sector unions. The right to collective bargain is a civil right no matter where you work.<br />Union organizers organize unions to represent the best interests of Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-33980236299561412662011-03-03T10:44:47.360-05:002011-03-03T10:44:47.360-05:00Majority of Americans are behind them? Ha, that p...Majority of Americans are behind them? Ha, that poll you stated is worded incorrectly. People arent against unions, but PUBLIC unions should NOT be holding the taxpayers hostage. You are completely wrong. There is a reason Carter and LBJ both flaming Libs were right in their programs and statements. <br /><br />We hear about 'union organizers,' and think they're organized againstbradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10044289933027711189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-76990892966909372492011-03-03T10:06:42.340-05:002011-03-03T10:06:42.340-05:00Wrong again.
Unbelievable Angry, yes, and most pe...Wrong again.<br /><br />Unbelievable Angry, yes, and most people would be angry when confronted with having their civil rights stolen from them that many people died for. This has nothing to do with alleged “extravagant benefit-pension contributions” because the unions have said they will make concessions like they have in the past. In fact, they are giving Scooter everything he wants, but they Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-82799301446561494872011-03-03T09:45:48.413-05:002011-03-03T09:45:48.413-05:00Every one of the "guru's" counterpoi...Every one of the "guru's" counterpoints have been proven otherwise. Delusional? <br /><br />It makes me sick to watch angry, militant, ungrateful state employees WITH JOBS complain that they can't get extravagant benefit-pension contributions from people who have no money because they're out of work. No one's asked the public sector to dip into their savings like bradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10044289933027711189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-16934620501842814932011-03-02T21:15:01.023-05:002011-03-02T21:15:01.023-05:00I appreciate you reviewing five years of posts, bu...I appreciate you reviewing five years of posts, but you are wrong, again.<br /><br />1. Again, Livingston County Republicans advocated in a local election when they were not registered to do so. <br /><br />2. Ever heard of disturbing the peace?<br /><br />3. Again, if tea baggers wanted to be in a parade that raises funds for the Monroe County Fair, then pay the entrance fee.<br /><br />4. ThereCommunications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-88845158625752451772011-03-02T16:25:55.100-05:002011-03-02T16:25:55.100-05:00You have lost many...the easiest to find is when y...You have lost many...the easiest to find is when you change your argument after I've proven you wrong.<br /><br />1. You said Livingston County Republicans broke the law and then changed your argument after I proved you wrong.<br /><br />2. You said a guy broke the law because he spoke at a public meeting.<br /><br />3. You said protesters were going to break the law and disrupt a parade whenkevinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14359743973083905789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-17002251843370756742011-03-02T16:07:43.100-05:002011-03-02T16:07:43.100-05:00You are so predictable...
Was it a typo when you ...You are so predictable...<br /><br />Was it a typo when you Johnny C said he had a hard-on for you?kevinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14359743973083905789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-24356207902479671372011-03-02T16:00:12.337-05:002011-03-02T16:00:12.337-05:00Plus, I haven't lost an argument in some time,...Plus, I haven't lost an argument in some time, especially not to you.Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-50043033929315360492011-03-02T15:48:11.071-05:002011-03-02T15:48:11.071-05:00Perhaps in your dreams. Like I said, do you think ...Perhaps in your dreams. Like I said, do you think that’s a typo?Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-91365212039244808552011-03-02T15:25:27.326-05:002011-03-02T15:25:27.326-05:00I've debunked many of them, and you've eve...I've debunked many of them, and you've even admitted that...before you denied it...you and John Kerry are flip-flopping fiends.<br /><br />I'm just quoting you...you said that when you lose an argument, then you resort to typos...you lost an argument so you went after a typo.kevinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14359743973083905789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-23674698590008979062011-03-02T14:22:50.440-05:002011-03-02T14:22:50.440-05:00And you think that was a typo from your other scre...And you think that was a typo from your other screen name? Not. But, again, thanks for the compliment. There is a good reason you stick to name-calling.<br /><br />If my “arguments lack any foundation” then why is it that you can’t debunk any of them?Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-36190053547241577992011-03-02T14:10:49.305-05:002011-03-02T14:10:49.305-05:00Let's see. You criticized someone for writing ...Let's see. You criticized someone for writing "youre" instead of "you're." In so doing, you make it sound like you weren't sure if "you're" or "your" was the right use, so you look even more stupid than normal.<br /><br />However, by your statement, "when you can't win on facts you have to look for typos." So you went after a kevinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14359743973083905789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-1578424686774292892011-03-02T13:30:09.675-05:002011-03-02T13:30:09.675-05:00I guess when you can’t win on the facts you have t...I guess when you can’t win on the facts you have to look for typos. Sometimes I commit a typo, and that’s what happens when you use your own words and not somebody else’s.Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-40557902211315838092011-03-02T12:02:41.248-05:002011-03-02T12:02:41.248-05:00Who is this Cater guy that commie guru refers to?
...Who is this Cater guy that commie guru refers to?<br /><br />Guru says he "didn't thin so." Does that means he "fat so?" Just asking.<br /><br />Guru also says, "I can speak fro myself." Apparently, though, he doesn't do that well when he writes for (fro?) himself.kevinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14359743973083905789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35718918.post-36483054266868338422011-03-02T10:54:16.182-05:002011-03-02T10:54:16.182-05:00Sorry, but I countered every single point, and non...Sorry, but I countered every single point, and none of them were even from you.<br /><br />Yes, democratic. You obviously have no idea how unions work. First, an election has to be held to form a union. Then every single leadership position in the union is elected, and every single contract must be voted on and approved by the membership. Again, there is nothing more democratic in the workplace Communications guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039487955952973487noreply@blogger.com